no return offer
I didn't get a return offer despite every indication I would (positive summer feedback, team liked me, and had good deliverables on deal work). I am not gonna lie I am extremely depressed and sad for this outcome especially considering how hard I worked this summer and to get this internship in the first place, but I just feel so hopeless in terms of next steps. How do I move past this?
Can't Hurt Me by David Goggins
Who's gonna carry the boats?
Lots of seniors posters on here survived 2008-2009 when basically no one got return offers. Just understand this is the cyclicality of the market, and focus on what you want next. If you really enjoyed banking, just take a week and clear your head.
Then start back networking and seeing similar firms/group to what you had.
yeah i think i just needed a night to clear my head and get over this loss ~ got to get back on the grind and am gonna send a fuckton of networking emails and hopefully something can stick
Exact same thing happened with me.
Just put your head down and start grinding nothing else to do at this point.
Yeah I'm feeling really low right now. I don't really want to think about the time I spent recruiting and working all for things to fall apart. I don't want to talk to anyone today man but also I want a shoulder to cry on at the same time lol
Best of luck to you. You should def talk to a friend outside finance/banking, and enjoy your weekend. Starting next week, get your head back in the recruiting game and remember it is not the end of anything. You can also reach out to the analysts/associates on your team that you know liked you, ask them to become references if applicable
Same here - interned at one of the top MM and ended up didn't get a return offer. I would just say it's probably because of the market, deal flow, headcount, we are underperform in their opinion, or whatever the reason is that I can't think of on top of my head. I am a hundred percent confident that I literally put in a lot of effort, and I only received positive feedback from the team and the people that I closely worked with too. At this point, it is what it is. This might sound cliche but we all honestly need to move on, reflect on ourselves, keep grinding, reach out to all possible connections we have on hand, and literally just keep our head up. Good luck!
appreciate it ~ was just really sad yesterday tbh but just decided to get back on the grind, hopefully we can get past this
Learn a trade
Some target / semi target kid doesn't get an IB offer and the advice is 'become a plumber'? Lol
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Hey man, PM me. Had the same issue a few years ago and was looking at a steep discount in "prestige" but was able to land a really solid role. Can't do anything about market cyclicality but timing is key and you need to start thinking about your options (strategy, who to reach out to, etc.). Really want to emphasize while this isn't fatal, if you want banking you need to act. Too many people get lazy, miss opportune timing and end up doing generic roles or going to grad school, simply because they didn't want it bad enough or didn't act quick enough. To the degree you hated your experience / don't want to do banking, disregard my prior comments.
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This isn't proprietary so posting for everyone's benefit:
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Look I don't know your situation but assuming you are rising senior this is what you need to do:
Do not be shy about explaining your situation to others you think that can help you (people you know, rich people, family friends, your tennis instructor who summers in the Hamptons / Brentwood, etc.). Don't let your ego get in the way here. When you do land interviews realize that on the other side of the table/zoom is a human (and likely not a sociopath, although YMMV), be present, tell your story and address this issue when it comes up.
People will absolutely reject you (had someone claim to have a meeting and close the interview early, had others just ghost met etc.) and it blows super hard but you gotta push through, lotta goodness on the other side I promise.
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Addendum: Geography (summered in NYC but you are TX based, CA based etc.)
- Need to optimize for where can get the full time offer (if that means doing LA banking or Houston banking and then trying your hand at a lateral role in NYC). Lateraling as an investment banking analyst, compared to virtually any other lateral move in your career down the line, is super easy. You just need an offer.
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